Support for Modders

[CiapekC330]

Would it be possible to create a single file or video explaining the functions and parameters introduced by the More Realistic modification, to make it easier for modders to adapt their mods to MR? Or some guidance on how to set the center of gravity, engine parameters, and gearbox settings to make them more realistic? Simply adding "true" to the XML is obviously not enough.

Is this a good idea?

I know I am asking a lot, but this is just a suggestion. It would certainly make things much easier and could lead to more mods being compatible with MR.

So far, I have been trying to compare Giants’ original solutions with those in MR and, using my own experience (trial and error) as well as AI-assisted code interpretation, I try to figure out the system. However, this takes a lot of time and often ends unsuccessfully.

[quadural]

Hi, i am afraid it is far from being so "trivial" that we can just explain it in a "book" or video.
Best thing to do would be to record the full conversion of a vehicle, but the video would be quite "lengthy". And in a lot of cases, the gathering data part of the job is the heaviest

Example : center of gravity = there is no rule for that. If you don't have any clues what is the correct center of gravity of the vehicle IRL, you will have a hard time to get something "realistic"

enginetorque curve = same as above, you have to find the data to be able to set the right values. If you don't have any data, and you are not a "motorist" engineer, the best way = doing like Giants : try to find a similar engine already converted by me and modify the torqueScale parameter to get the right max power wanted.

transmission = if this is a cvt, you only have to take care of the 4 transmissions ratios (set 1000 for the max forward and reverse, and then, you only have to "compute" the min forward and min reverse according to what you want to achieve, nothing specific to MR = same as base game)

as far as i am concerned, each vehicle is "unique" when I convert it.
Of course, this is easier when there is already a similar vehicle already converted (no new script involved)
Example : I converted the john deere 8R yesterday. I spent something like 3 hours gathering data (I can look for data from any computer = possible during the work day, soemtime) and another 3 hours to apply the parameters and "fine tune" the tractors in game (only possible when I can launch the game = on my development PC, only at evening/night time) :
Most of this job is the same as for "any" tractor =

• mass and center of mass
• front ballast config (mass and position)
• wheels damper and spring and sometimes suspTravel
• run the gsVehicleAnalyse
• differentials settings
• engine torque curve for each power (not just a "scale" factor)
• max fuel usage and def usage
• transmission (different between the 8R280-310 and the 8R370-410 (IVT vs e-Autopower => not the same ratio)
• fine tune attachers for trailers
• correct fuel tank and def tank capacity

The best part = we can reload a vehicle ingame a lot of time, without having to reload the game. (command : gsVehicleReload)
And so, we can quickly see the difference whan changing xml values.

Why it takes so much time ?
Example for the 8R mass :
if you gather data (nebraska test, oecd test, DLG test) => you will get different tires combination and tractor config (without front 3pt hitch, without front weight support, with front wseight support, with front ballast, with front 3pt hitch...)
most of the time = 480/80R50 rear and 420/85R34 front (duals or not)
but in game, you got 480/95R50 and 460/85R34 => in such case, I cheated by overriding (temporarily) the default game tires with the one of IRL tests. Once I get what I wanted (front and rear masses in game with a specific set of tires), I removed the overriding of the wheels dimension.

So : if you are struggling with converting a vehicle, why not opening a topic for this conversion ?
=> please only try to convert vehicles when there are similar vehicles already converted by me in the base game. (otherwise = high propability to require new scripts)