Future of HelloSystem now that GhostBSD Gershwin exists

[athpanos]

Hello, I have seen you on the GhostBSD Gershwin github and I was wondering if you are planning to continue working on helloSystem or are you going to turn your attention to Gershwin.

[probonopd]

Hello @athpanos. Yes, I've been experimenting with GhostBSD, XLibre, GNUstep, Gershwin, and a few other things lately (and had experimented with LIVEstep before). Whether and what that means for helloSystem hasn't been decided yet. Ideally we find a good way to combine all the good stuff.

[athpanos]

Thank you for answering. I hope helloSystem is not abandoned. We need options, now that Apple is not desirable for us, old Mac users. helloSystem reminds me of my System 7 days. If you can combine ideas from both systems, it is also nice.

[kyleblizzard]

I wonder if hello system / Gershwin and the like is better suited as a desktop environment that’s portable. I think the OS underneath is kind of a moving target. Like, we all know Linux is “better” than BSD for desktop. But we also probably see that Linux is drifting into corporate weirdness over time. I like the idea of building a whole perfect Mac OS influenced system, but I wonder if it’s too much work for a small project. Whereas a DE could be something that lives on and the OS under is swapped out over time. I think the “feel” is a lot of what Hello System really seeks to accomplish, at least that’s my interpretation. On Sep 23, 2025, at 5:03 PM, athpanos ***@***.***> wrote: Thank you for answering. I hope Hellosystem is not abandoned. We need options, now that Apple is not desirable for us old Mac users. Hellosystem reminds me of my System 7 days. If you can combine ideas from both systems, it is also nice. —Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe.You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[probonopd]

Linux as a kernel has wider hardware support. But especially the userland that is running on top of the Linux kernel is, in my opinion, deteriorating quickly. The advantage of FreeBSD is that it is a full(er) operating system and not just a kernel, fewer things are undefined/"moving targets". Should I ever see a real need to use a Linux kernel, I'd try to get the BSD userland on top of it.